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Episode 175 - Axel

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Axel and his wife opened their relationship a few years ago after she came to him and let him know that she had fallen in love with another guy. This was a wakeup call that they had put their marriage on cruise control and that something had to change. Over the last few years they have rethought their entire approach to the relationship and their lives overall. Now they’re happily married and have found a way to blend swinging, polyamory, and BDSM into an intentional and dynamic relationship that is thriving. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.


Axel has also written a book called Marriage and Beyond (Note: We said the incorrect name during the show, the book is not Rethinking Relationships), that will be published soon. He has taken all of the information he has learned throughout his journey, combined it with interviews from others who are exploring and studying non-monogamy, and consolidated it into an incredible resource for us all. Please check out his website to sign up for the pre-launch and support this incredible work.

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Resources Mentioned in this Episode


Episode 146 - Leah

Episode 174 - 4OURPLAY (Bella + Jase)


Polysecure | https://amzn.to/3rQNK5V

The New Topping Book | https://amzn.to/3sQZfvz

The Ethical Slut | https://amzn.to/3rQNYtN


Kitty Chambliss - Loving Without Boundaries


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Music Attribution

Monkeys Spinning Monkeys by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under Attribution 3.0 International License.


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